The inimitable, brilliant Aya de Leon joins us for an inspiring conversation about regime change, the American Dirt controversy, genre, including the elements of a heist plot, and story structure–from the hero’s journey to politics to football and rugby. But that’s not all! We talk how Black/ Latina/ mixed-race girls occupying the center of the teen girl spy drama (one of Aya’s myriad exciting projects); the heart of productivity: the JOY and FUN of writing; fires and rebuilding and capitalist individualism v the big picture; the power of the treadmill desk, and more. Memorable quotes from Aya: “202020 climateclimateclimate;” “I really love writing.” Just go listen, and enjoy!


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Story Makers is a podcast that features in-depth conversations with accomplished writers, filmmakers and industry experts about story craft, technique, habit and survival–everything you need to know to stay inspired, connect to your creativity, find others’ wonderful stories and your own success.

The hosts:

Elizabeth Stark is a published, agented novelist and distributed filmmaker who teaches and mentors writers at BookWritingWorld.com.

Angie Powers is a distributed filmmaker and published short story writer with an MFA in creative writing and a certificate in screenwriting from UCLA who teaches story structure at BookWritingWorld.com.