This week, Elizabeth is working on what it means to wait and Angie is getting out of her comfort zone. They discuss how it’s harder to be successful if you’re focused on the product instead of the process. Going between a focused view on a project and then a more diffuse view tends to lead to greater productivity and overall growth. Taking smaller forays outside of the comfort zone highlights how a moderate amount of discomfort is proof of growth (embrace the “un-comfort” zone). Like working out your body, it’s the little tears that make the bigger gains over the long term.

Story Makers is a podcast that features in-depth conversations with accomplished writers, filmmakers and industry experts about story craft, technique, habit and survival–everything you need to know to stay inspired, connect to your creativity, find others’ wonderful stories and your own success.

The hosts:

Elizabeth Stark is a published, agented novelist and distributed filmmaker who teaches and mentors writers at BookWritingWorld.com.

Angie Powers is a distributed filmmaker and published short story writer with an MFA in creative writing and a certificate in screenwriting from UCLA who teaches story structure at BookWritingWorld.com.