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Angie and Elizabeth regroup after Angie’s intensive film production and Elizabeth’s recently completed novel draft to talk about iterations of projects, what to do in between, how to juggle vision v. footage/ pages, and the importance of knowing what you are working towards when you edit. We also discuss concrete story goals–what they look like, why they matter, and what they allow in terms of resonance and larger themes. Other topics we touch on in this conversation include: releasing ownership, film v. prose, want v. need, mindset, and the level of risk we are willing to take.

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Story Makers is a podcast that features in-depth conversations with accomplished writers, filmmakers and industry experts about story craft, technique, habit and survival–everything you need to know to stay inspired, connect to your creativity, find others’ wonderful stories and your own success.

The hosts:

Elizabeth Stark is a published, agented novelist and distributed filmmaker who teaches and mentors writers at

Angie Powers is a distributed filmmaker and published short story writer with an MFA in creative writing and a certificate in screenwriting from UCLA who teaches story structure at